‘It is what it is’ 12-year-old killer coldly told his mate who expressed concerns after they stabbed man to death in park in UK

Chilling Snapchat messages sent between two 12-year-old boys who stabbed man to death have revealed one saying of the stabbing: ‘It is what it is.’

The boys are thought to have become the youngest knife murderers in the UK after stabbing Shawn Seesahai, 19, through the heart in a park in Wolverhampton in 2023.

After their conviction, social media exchanges came to light involving them and a girl witness who later attended a police station with her mother to make a statement.

The conversation retrieved by police starts when one of the killers says on Snapchat of the stabbing: ‘Everyone’s talking abt (sic) it, literally everyone, everyone knows.’

The other one in the pair who were both found guilty of murder at Nottingham Crown Court yesterday – then responds with a voice note, saying: ‘It is what it is.’

They then shared more messages, saying: ‘I’m scared man’ – before the other says ‘I’m not’, followed by the acronym ‘IDRC’ which means ‘I don’t really care’.

The other one then responds with a voice note saying: ‘I ain’t said nowt (sic) cause every time I talk about it, like I act weird apparently so (inaudible) comes and goes.’

There is then a response saying: ‘I’m just scared your you too (sic).’

Yesterday, family members of both Mr Seesahai and the defendants cried and hugged each other in the public gallery as the jurors found both boys guilty of murder and one guilty of possessing a bladed article.

They are believed to be youngest defendants convicted of murder in Britain since Robert Thompson and Jon Venables, both aged 11, were found guilty in 1993 of killing two-year-old James Bulger.

In an interview released after the verdicts, Mr Seesahai’s parents Suresh and Maneshwary have said they will never be able to get over the loss of their son who always told them he would ‘shine’ and take care of them.

A month-long trial was told Mr Seesahai was shoulder-barged by the smaller of the two defendants, who ‘often’ carried a machete with a 42.5cm-long blade.

He was then punched, kicked, stamped on and ‘chopped’ at with the weapon.

The victim’s friend told the trial he was forced to run for his life but Mr Seesahai stumbled as he tried to flee from the boys on Wolverhampton’s Stowlawn playing fields on November 13 last year.

After refusing to answer police questions in the aftermath of the murder, the boys both gave evidence to jurors, blaming each other for inflicting the fatal blow.

As well as failing to summon help for Mr Seesahai, the youths showed no remorse for what they had done in the 24 hours before their arrest – with one cleaning the machete with bleach and hiding it under his bed.

They told the court they both played video games in the hours after the killing, claiming they did not know Mr Seesahai had died until the following day.

Jurors heard one of the defendants posed, wearing a mask, with the murder weapon for a picture hours before the killing, and was found to have 11 areas of bloodstaining on his clothing.

The boy was also seen with blood on his hands in the aftermath of the murder, while his friend had a small area of bloodstaining on his right trainer.

Mr Seesahai, a stranger to the two boys, was pronounced dead at 9.11 pm after police and paramedics were called to the scene.

The boys are expected to be sentenced on a date to be fixed in July.